MARY GREENEN GRAHAM AND PATRICK GRAHAM
These are NOTES ONLY
NOTES FROM PAT LINDEMUTH GRAHAM: 10/28/00
Her daughter, Jamie, lives in Trenton OH... has all the records...
also e-mail and internet access.
The Grahams have several census reports including 1850 and others.
Pat does not know date of marriage nor place. Urbana or
Indy???
Mary would have turned 18 in 1864.
She knows nothing of the 1863 Urbana marriage record between a Mary
Greenan and John Tulley.
Our "Mary" would have been only 19 at that time.
Patrick and Mary had 7 or 8 children (at least)
five? boys & three? girls.
Patrick went by name of "John Graham"
died Jan 2, 1907 (age 65 & 67... records conflict)
CHILDREN
Jane Elizabeth: b. Sept. 10, 1871 d.
Aug 2, 1939.
Bill Flynn says Jane was retarded.... never
married... Lived with Nellie Graham Flynn & family.
Eva ("Effie") Catherine (?) b. Dec. 27
1878 d. ??
Mary Ellen ("Nellie") b. Mar. 19,
1872 or 73 d. Aug 17, 1943
Married William Hetherman Flynn... farmer
...Irish immigrant (came at age 8 with brothers & no parents ...William
lived in orphanage in Cincinnati for a while.. worked for a woman named
Ryan in Woodstock Ohio which became his hometown. Much of this not
yet documented.
William Edward Mar. 20, 1876
d. ? (probably late 20s or early 30's)
Lavina b. Jan 12, 1885
d. ??
Joseph b. Sept 23 (?28) 1886
Anna b. June 15, 1877
d. Mar 26, 1904 (died of Tuberculosis) Jamie will send obit.
James P. F. Graham ("Frank") Jan.
31, 1890
Graham family of Greenville is decended from Frank.
Frank Jr. would be second cousin to my dad but never knew about any
of his Indianapolis cousins.
Frank Jr. remembers very little about his
dad or grandmother Greenen but states his dad (Frank Sr.) died when he
was 11.
Frank Sr. died at age ~ 44 in ~ 1935.
Mary must have had Frank "late in life"
as his birthday calculates out to be around 1890... & Mary would have
been 44 then.
Was Frank the youngest of her children???
It seems that Patrick Graham and Mary
Greenen Graham raised their family on a large farm in Fayetteville near
Cincinnati. (on U.S. 50)
Several of Frank Sr.'s brothers
(Frank Jr.'s uncles) stayed in Fayettville and were remembered as being
"very rural"
Frank Jr. recalls
his uncles as being like the "Beverly Hillbillies." ...old county
Irishmen.
It is not known how Patrick & Mary
wound up in Fayetteville after getting married in Urbana.
Frank Sr. (Mary's son) ran a grocery
store in Fayetteville till he died... years would have been about 1915
- 1935 or thereabouts.
After Frank Sr.'s death their mother
(nee Jeffries) took all the children and moved to her father's farm near
Greenville Ohio... the Jeffries farm.
Jeffries family was non Catholic.
Frank has story to tell about how and why she gave up on promise to raise
children Catholic.
In about 1961 I was in Cincinnati ~~ working on the road for my father's company. I was given the name and address of a family in Cincinnati whom I should visit. I'm fairly sure I was told that these were relatives... maybe Greenen relatives. It would be an important thing for me to do, my dad said, because the family had a daughter about my age. I was about 20 years old and just left the Catholic Seminary. I knew nothing about girls and was driving a pick up truck and didn't know my way around Cincinnati... and for all kinds of reasons I didn't make the visit. Could these have been Greenens or Grahams living in Cincy at that time? DCD
The Greenen/Ryan/Poirier bible attests that Patrick Graham died June
2, 1907.
Same bible shows Mary Greenen Graham's death on May 11, 1921.
November 8, 2000 Dear Jamie & Dan Both
John W. & Lavenia Graham Foley at buried in Calvary Cemetery as you
stated but in Indianapolis, Indiana and not
Springfield , OhioLavenia
Graham Foley was interred Feb. 16, 1962 Interment #29758 age 76 Lot 83
Section 5 last address 2444 North Meridian St. Indianapolis,
Indiana Parish she
was buried from is Cathedral next of kin: husband John W. Foley Mortuary
Feeney-Kirby Double grave marker made by Hoosier Monument
Company John W. Foley
husband of Lavenia Graham Foleyaddress 351 South Belmont St. Springfield,
Ohio buried with Lavenia in Calvary Cemetery Indianapolis,
Indiana Lot 83 section
5 died June 15, 1968 Interred June 18, 1968 interment #34450parish buried
from St. Raphael Springfield, OhioMortuary: Conroy Springfield,
Ohio Jamie do you
know anything about this person?Mary Graham buried in Holy Cross Cemetery
Indianapolis, Indiana Lot 282 section 10-D Interred July 23, 1879
no
other information
given.Could this be one of your relatives? For a period of time Dan &
I thought this could have been Mary E. Greenen daughter of Peter Greenen
until
we found other information
that showed that it was not her. Dan & I don't know who she is?Andy
Mary died in Indy. Pat is not sure where Patrick Graham died;
but says that they believe they may have lived separately for a time.
One census shows Mary living in Indy with her brother Michael. No
one seems sure why that was. Probably after the children were all
raised... which would have been near the turn of the century.
We need to be careful here; as there were more than one "Mary Greenens"
and maybe 3 or 4 who went by that name ~~ counting children.
SOME (at least one) Mary Greenen is unaccounted for... but is DEFINITELY
NOT Mary Greenen Graham.
There are hints that Patrick may have had the "Irish affliction" to
the point of an intolerable fault... but no details.
At the time of Mary's death, it is obvious that (at least some of)
their children felt they should be buried side by side.
They are buried together in Springfield Ohio. Graham family has pictures of headstones.
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Greenen/Ryan/Poirier bible lists a MARY GREENEN O'BRIEN who died
Jan 6, 1914 at age 58!
This would make her birth year about 1856
NO ONE SEEMS TO KNOW WHO THIS WAS!
If she was another daughter to Peter Greenen &
Mary CONWAY, then her mother bore her at age 46... AND
She would have been the SECOND child to go by the
name of Mary in this family.... AND
She would be the "missing" person from the "five
grown children" mentioned in Peter's obituary. ...AND
Why is there no other document anywhere which attests
to her existence?
This bible has thus far
and otherwise been almost 100% trustworthy!
WHO WAS THIS WOMAN?
Other Interested Greenen Relatives
BILL FLYNN: Oldest of 10
Retired from Delco
4001 Wagner Road Kettering OH 45440
(937) 299-7381
Charla Graham-Gold Great grand daughter to Mary
Greenen (daughter of Charles) Lives in California
Joanie Graham Honey Great grand daughter to Mary
Greenen: (daughter of Joe Graham) West Carollton Ohio